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And we're gonna start over the morning.

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Good.

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Shabbat Shalom, everybody! It is April 18th. It is the

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first day of the Jewish month.

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It's a spring.

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It is the 16th day of the…

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Yeah.

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If there were names that want to come into…

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names, little hats.

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Blessed are you under my God, eternal sovereign.

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Make us holy in God's made to vote.

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Man, I was too busy ourselves.

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of healing and words.

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Oh, man.

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So, we are in…

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Parashat Tasriya Mitsorah. We are in the deep heart of the Book of Leviticus.

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Which is often, I think, a part of Torah that we as moderns might shy away from a little bit.

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But I think and I hope that we'll find this morning that there's some deep wisdom here, and some really…

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interesting questions for us to explore.

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You'll see in our multi-colors…

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the words that we're keeping an eye out for, the concepts that will pop for us as we study.

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This morning.

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And we've got a little excerpt from a meditation by Rabbi Yael Levy.

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On this week's Parsha.

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Would someone like to read her words? And we'll let them soak in as we prepare to learn.

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I'm gonna just unmute and read Yael's words for us.

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sees the natural inclination is to seek harmony.

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Yes.

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To find balance. Many things mix us up and leave us unsettled.

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Finding balance, seeking harmony is a practice.

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Listen to the body.

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Notice what it is telling you.

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What is the body communicating?

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Tradition teaches us that when we listen to the body,

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We realized that there are times for us to be un…

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Sorry, outwardly engaged.

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And times for us to focus inward.

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The body can help us discern what is true for us to do.

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At the moment and listen to your own body.

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See what messages it might be bringing you this morning. The Torah of the body.

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And with that as our lens, let's look at this week's verses, which some of us have seen before, because I emailed them out earlier in the week to see if y'all had

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reactions and responses. Rabbi David?

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So, what you're gonna see on screen…

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This is not from this week's Torah portion.

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This is from last week's Torah portion.

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It's the very last sentences.

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And they are sort of the run-up.

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to the beginning of this week's topic.

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So, you don't know where you're going until you know

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Prior Parsha talked.

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You get a lot of ballots tomorrow.

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being charged up, or in English impure, which is just…

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translation, or…

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gets charged, ground states.

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to that flow of the sacred.

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Not ivory soap, pure, but English translates it.

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One of the ways that…

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command that invited.

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two different spiritual states is in terms of what

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So these last several sentences are…

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exactly about cleaning, you know, just…

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completing that process.

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all the things that creep donor.

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Don't eat lizards.

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What is more to see among all creatures?

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on the earth, don't eat them, they're an abomination.

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Millipedes, not food.

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Don't make yourself abominable.

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I keep saying things, don't make yourself tame with them. Don't be tameified.

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You will sanctify yourselves, and you will.

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It will be only, for I am holy.

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once more feeling. You will not tame it by yourself.

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creeps. And if you need another reason.

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Because I am the one who brought you out of the land of Egypt.

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And so, once again, you will be holy, because I am holy.

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This, therefore, is the Torah.

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At least the animals, the bird, every living creature that moves in the waters, and every creature that creeps.

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To separate between tomatoes,

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And between animals to be eaten.

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And animals not to be eaten.

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All of this has to do with spiritual stuff.

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There will be several partial to the book of Leviticus.

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purpose of being holy.

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come into this week's Torah portions.

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Let's do what we do.

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So, Delia, I see your hand.

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Thank you. Um… I wanted to do just a subtle language, since that's what we love to do about the phrase, listen to the body.

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Um, it's a… it's a subtle patriarchal enculturation from my learning about the head who's listening.

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Listen to the body. As opposed to allow the body's wisdom to emerge.

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Beautiful. Thank you for that.

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Thank you for that.

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All right, can we have four readers for these 4 chunks of…

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Tazria.

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And this is from the beginning of… this week is a two-part Torah portion, Tazriah and Matzorah.

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And we are focusing at the very beginning of Tazria. We're starting… starting at the very beginning, a very good place to start.

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Will four people read?

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Yodhy Vav-Heh spoke to, saying,

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Speak to the Israelite people thus.

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When a woman at childbirth bears a male, she shall be to me?

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To my seven…

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Hame.

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Come May, seven days.

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She shall be Tame like the days of her menstrual separation.

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Someone else, please?

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On the eighth day, the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.

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She will remain in a state of blood to hara for 33 days. She will not touch any consecrated thing or enter the Mikdash until her tahara days are completed.

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Next.

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I know these are tough verses, I promise we're gonna make something good out of them.

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Will someone read at verse 5?

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female, she shall be to me two weeks as during her menstruation, and she will remain in a state of blood ta'ara for 66 days.

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On the completion of a period of Tahara, for either son or daughter, she will bring to the Kohen at the opening of the tent of witnessing, a yearning lamb as an Ola.

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And a pigeon or dove as a Hafat offering.

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One more.

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He will carbonify it before Yudh-hevov-Hey and make expiation for her, and then she will be Tahor from her place of blood.

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This is the Torah of the woman who bears a child, male or female. And if her means do not suffice for a sheep, she will take two doves or two pigeons, one for an Ola offering and the other for a chattat offering.

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The cohen will make expiation for her, and she will be takwar.

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So I want to name the fact that in this double Parsha, Tasriya and Mitzorah,

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In years past, we look back at the source sheets Rabbi David has taught, and he has focused on

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Matsura on the Torah about Sabraat, this condition usually mistranslated as leprosy.

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Really, it has to do with Lashon Hara, which, by the way, James wrote something beautiful about this week.

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And I…

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pushed hard for us to go here this year instead.

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Precisely because these are the verses I think most of us don't want to come anywhere near. This is…

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Difficult stuff to grapple with. The fact that this is in our tradition for a lot of us is difficult to grapple with.

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And I think that's why it's so rich.

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So with that,

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What is bubbling up for us this morning?

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What here is inexplicable, what says Darshani, Midrashmi?

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what is sparking

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or butting heads, or…

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taking us places.

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And we especially want to encourage folks to say the difficulties.

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Yeah, feel free to tell us every reason why you may not like these verses, or maybe why you like them. I won't assume.

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Thank you!

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As a vegetarian, I don't like talking about killing or offering animals.

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Beautiful. Right, okay, so the whole fact of sacrificing animals as a way of talking to God

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is already problematic for some of us.

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Right, this is not a vegetarian… very vegetarian-friendly system.

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Rachel, I see your hand.

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No.

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Thank you. When I read these verses, I… Feel that they are man-made.

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I just can't understand why anything holy would be making such things, but.

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Shmaty, I hear that.

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Right, is this… this is one of those places in Torah that feels…

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Tavka, specifically man-made, not just created by humans, but maybe gendered.

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Certainly. What else?

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Well, as a man, I can't see why anything

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man-made would mandate circumcision.

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That's also an excellent point!

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mandate. I see what you did there.

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Really good point. Yep, alright.

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So that's another piece of this that's problematic, not…

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On the eighth day, here we go, friends.

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Uh, oh, okay, now the hands are popping. Deanna and then Joan.

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Well, I have a curiosity, and this is not to say that I think one is good and one is bad, or…

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Mm-hmm.

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You know, but I'm… I have a curiosity about why the difference

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in treatment between if you bear a male and if you bear a female.

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I love some explanation around that.

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I'm so glad you asked. It turns out our tradition would love some explanation around that, too.

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Yeah, right. Why is it that if one bears a female child…

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The period of Tumah,

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Or blood Tahara. She's touome, but then it's blood pure.

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But it's twice as long as with a boy. What gives?

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Joan and then Iris.

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It sounds punitive, and here a woman has… I don't want to say gone through has had the privilege of carrying a child. Sometimes they've gone through more difficulty than other times, and she's done what in our tradition is.

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is supposed to be so highly held highly and respected. And yet.

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Is and yet she. Seems to be.

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having. She seems to be being told that.

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Hmm…

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She's not quite up to par, and going back to the business of a man saying it.

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Um… And I'm going to be very forthright if you don't mind.

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Go right ahead.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um. There's this thing about blood and sexual relations, and.

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Are men afraid of blood? Is there something about a woman who still is bleeding, which is such a natural thing that a man stays away from her, that she cannot touch something?

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That is… That is a slant.

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Mm-hmm.

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Which sounds ignorant. Now, you folks. Rabbi Rachel, Rabbi David may certainly have the explanation for those thoughts, and I'd love to hear them.

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Well, uh, we will… we will be bringing forward some of what tradition has had to say about it. We'll see where it takes us.

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Alright, but yeah, there's that…

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This is great, you guys. Thank you for name… wow, okay, uh…

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Iris, and then Delia, and then Cheryl. Let's keep it moving.

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Okay, so I often have a more positive

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Mm-hmm.

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perspective on the 33 versus 66 days.

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And it's because I think it's honoring the womb of the baby and the potential for bearing

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life in the future.

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Beautiful.

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That's a kind of positive look at it.

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I love that.

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Yeah, thank you. And I think part of the…

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abstaining from sexual relations during…

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The menstrual cycle… well, during… sorry, during the time of…

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bleeding, I wonder if they had a sense back then, maybe from experience,

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to observe when a woman is usually ovulating, and therefore usually

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That's when you would have intercourse in order to conceive.

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I don't know, I mean, they could have noticed.

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Yeah, and I also think there's an amount of…

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respect for the spirituality of

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The mother and bonding with the child, especially with the female child.

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Um, and that there's…

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There's a positive part of…

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Honoring the need for time away from the community in order to do that.

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So, instead of punishment, or, you know, total isolation in a negative sense,

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I see it as, um, honoring some of those needs.

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Before re-entry.

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So this could land for some of us, this is landing as punitive. For some of us, it's landing as, oh, thank God she's getting a break.

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And it's… it's honoring…

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The birthing. Delian, then Cheryl.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yes, I agree with Iris. I was going to say the same thing about honoring this space. You get more time with your girl child to really bond and stay away. But also, it's also, isn't it also male omissions that make you? So it's any omissions, not just.

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the blood part. Yeah.

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An excellent point, right? So it's not just about the blood that comes from women, it's also… it's anything that seems to break the surface.

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Right? Cheryl.

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So I'm kind of riffing on the same thing because we've talked about blood and birthing and creation.

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And, um… Women and holiness, and I was also thinking of what 33 and 66 might represent in the Gemara.

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33 being… log the Omar.

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Hmm…

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And, uh… 66.

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Right? Oh, that's… love that. So, Gematria is the Hebrew art of…

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just being double that more. joy and… Thank you, Matria.

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Dynamic Matri, of every Hebrew letter is also a number, and so every word has a value,

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But it also means that every number implies words.

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That have that same numerical value, and so we…

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you know, what the meanings of 33

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And 66.

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Iris, do you have your hand up?

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33 is… the number 33 is spelled

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Okay, I missed the, what is 33 represent?

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Lamed Gimmel, and there is a minor festival

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during the Omer count, called Lag Ba Omer, on the 33rd day of the Omer.

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That is the end of…

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in some communities, the first part of the OMER is a semi-time of mourning in remembrance of

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Possibly a great plague that took out many, many of Akiva's students.

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And Logba Omer marks the end of that plague, and so it's a day of rejoicing.

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Um, it is, uh, uh, often celebrated with barbecues and bonfires.

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Um, and archery, a whole other conversation. Um, but right, the 33 could…

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suggest that

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festival day, and maybe 66 is twice that.

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And people who are better than me at Gematria

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can come up with, oh, you know, this number links… hyperlinks with this verse because of the…

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I see your hand.

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the numerical value of the words, so there's all of that implied in there, too.

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Hebrew gematria is the gift that keeps on giving.

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And for those of us who are looking

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intellectual rigor.

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Um, it can come both ways, because on the one hand, ooh, there are all these possible connections, and on the other hand,

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You can probably connect to almost anything you want.

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Because you'll find the word…

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If you can find the right number in it,

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So, so it's… it's interesting.

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And because we're in the home repair right now, and we're in this time,

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You know, it raises it up, and it's always red during this time.

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And…

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Who knows?

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Iris, is your hand up again, or still?

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Yeah, I just have a quick thing about…

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Yeah, and then James.

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So, spilling the seed is not… we're not supposed to do that, right? I mean…

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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

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Yeah, I just wanted to add that to the other comment.

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So, it's, it's…

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It's not gendered in the respect of anything.

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sexual…

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will shift the spiritual state.

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Men typically do not…

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their children.

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I represent a book somewhere.

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And so this particular piece lands…

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questions you're asking and the comments you're making.

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that our ancestors also grappled with.

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Yeah, we are…

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We are far from the first generation to wrestle with this.

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James, what's on your mind?

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So… I'm sorry if I repeat something. I've got multiple things going on, as you guys know, or some of you know.

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Are we gonna look at all of this? As literal, or are we looking at some of this as more symbolic?

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Um, as you know, I don't typically look at the text as always being literal.

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From a cultural perspective, I see the obvious issues and so forth to discuss from a literal perspective.

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But when you start talking in a more symbolic sense.

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There's a whole bunch of other things to explore here. You know, like for example, the process of giving life. Why would a girl's birth?

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require a longer term than a boy's birth? Well, again, the process of giving life, you know, these kinds of things all factor in.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, into the symbolic side, so that's what I wanted to know.

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where you guys really wanting to discuss this? Uh, which direction of those two?

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those, that is a great question.

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So, shortly we will move to our collection of texts.

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Which will…

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range from some… we will dip both into, I think, some literal thinking and some symbolic thinking.

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Because both of those are always operating.

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in us as readers, in us as… as…

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connected with this text.

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So, did you have a chance to read the one that I sent, the second one I sent of my essays?

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I thought that I did, but now maybe I'm less sure.

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Help me out.

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Okay, it's not… it's not posted yet, but… It's very heavy into the symbolic side of all this.

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Mmm, I might have missed that email for which I apologize. In that case, that's on me.

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You cannot.

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And if you guys… Okay. So, if you guys don't want me to talk about that, just let me know, and I'll let the focus be on the other side of it.

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No, no, no, no. No, no, no, James. No, what's here is here.

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You're not.

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Well, I just don't wanna… I don't wanna hijack the discussion with something that nobody's interested in. That's why I'm asking that, you know?

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There you go.

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I'm interested.

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Yep.

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Okay, well, I've taken enough time for this. I'll come in later as we talk.

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Okay, all right. I will be alert for that. Joan, what are you thinking?

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I'm thinking about this… the notion that a female child and a male child differ as to their needs for what goes on between them in those first couple of months.

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Why would anyone think that? Why would… Why would you… I'm sorry, did I hear somebody say that for a.

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you know, for a male for when a. Well, it says, uh, she'll remain in a state of blood to hara for 66 days.

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Mm-hmm. That certainly is noticeable, isn't it?

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But with a boy, it's 33.

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Well, yes, but… She's not giving birth to adolescent children.

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Thank God!

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Giving birth to baby. Right. Thank God. And.

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Why would there be a is that for the woman, or is that for the child?

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So what is the purpose of this period of blood Tahara, purification?

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And why does it come in two different durations?

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What?

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Yep. Torah does not say.

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Tori just puts this out here.

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Maybe it is time to… yep.

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So the first question that we wanted to ask is…

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Why is this even here? Why is Torah giving us any of this in the first place?

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And so for one of our older answers, we've got some Vayikra Rabba.

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Would someone like to read where it says Robbie Simlae said?

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Rabbi Simlai said people were created after animals, and the laws for people, purification also come after the laws for animals.

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That's why it's said. This is the Torah of the beasts.

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And only afterwards, when a woman at childbirth.

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So this speaks to why we opened our source sheet with the end of last week's Parsha.

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Reminding us that we're coming into this from a conversation about

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Animals in which animals we can and can't eat, or should and shouldn't eat.

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So we're starting with the animal and then moving to the human. There's a…

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a progression of some kind.

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Somebody want to read Ibn Ezra?

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When a woman at childbirth. After Tora concludes the law of Tahor and Tamay food.

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It deals with human. Tuma.

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The Torah starts with the woman who gives birth because human life.

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begins at birth. Many say that if the woman produces the seed first.

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Then, she gives birth to a male. Zora therefore continues.

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bears a male. Tasria.

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Be delivered means… will give seed.

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For a woman is like the ground.

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I have to say, I love that life. A woman is like the ground.

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That's gonna have to become a poem, because that is just the most amazing statement.

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What I'm seeing in the chat, if the mom gives birth to twins, triplets, or more daughters, would she be tamee for more days?

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That's an interesting question. I don't think so. I think the period of days is the same regardless.

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Or was the same regardless.

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So, one of the things we did…

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that this time is coming, and I'm gonna call on Nancy, and then Deanna.

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is…

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to send out the verses in advance, hoping you saw.

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Fight you to send us your midrash.

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Because…

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And by the way, the complete… the complete text of all the Midrash we received from y'all about these verses

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follow at the end of the document. So there are some excerpts scattered through here, and then

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You'll be able to see everything that y'all wrote.

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And it's… it is so very you. It is so wonderful.

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cause the tradition.

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We received…

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try to find a way to say this that doesn't piss anybody off.

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tradition.

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We'll be rushing and explanations

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We're all…

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Bye.

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AI?

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And.

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And so, this is one

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those places…

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first hands, because science.

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Happy first-hand

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physical intuition.

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In the same way that women can.

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Because women did, and women do.

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So, a lot of the explanations…

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It's not about the female experience.

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Backup with none of them work.

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We will pick some of that today.

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Which is part of the repair that we are here to bring collectively as a community.

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It's a little different than…

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emotional realm, or the spiritual realm, or…

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something that isn't about a

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body process, says the guy wearing…

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A guy being here today.

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People can eat.

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Your beanie is exactly like my beanie.

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Yes, but it's on a male head.

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Plus, it's gender essentialized. There are only two genders here, it's male or female.

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You know, Judaism does not recognize only two genders, and here we've got exactly two genders. You're this, or you're that.

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So this is… this is way back.

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A lot of the explanations in…

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Canon have to do…

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Well, we are not entirely sure ourselves.

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Because the rabbis don't give a great answer. Why?

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They just were taken as a given.

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Because I have to take it as a given, because otherwise they have to, you know, cross out parts of Torah and we can't do it.

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So, if you're looking for a classical explanation that will be satisfying,

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It's gonna be a very, very long day.

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That's one of the reasons we bring this forward, because

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isn't an explanation.

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That resonates. It opens up a

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And in that hole,

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Who wrote this?

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Why would the Holy right this?

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That is consistent with

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piece about becoming

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becoming pure.

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for spiritual experience.

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That's the purpose of this.

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I'm watching the faces in the room.

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in that. I'm with you in that.

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And I'm not a woman. So…

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Yeah, and then…

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Nancy and Deanna?

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So…

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I'm just confused about produces the seed first. I don't know what this means or will give seed. I'm very confused.

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So, some of this has to do with

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ancient understandings of how fertility worked.

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I figured.

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They did not know exactly from sperm, egg, and embryo the way that we do.

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There was also a cultural understanding

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Right.

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that the gender of the baby might be produced by who had an orgasm first?

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So, that's another question?

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Um, this might have something to do with why Talmud is so…

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uh, detailed about…

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the obligation of the husband to make sure that the wife is

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Satisfied?

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Because that's the way you make sure to get a boy.

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Which, of course, was understood to be the preferable…

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Me too.

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gender, right? So there's a whole bunch of stuff packed into this.

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Um, but yes, so the understanding was that somehow a baby required

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a seed from each parent.

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And so, how exactly that worked was not clear.

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Is that helpful?

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No.

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And I'm… and I'm…

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H1 pop-up video.

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Right, our tradition said, what?

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above your heads, those little

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So precious. And I mean,

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Uh-huh.

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So I'm… I'm just going to observe them, and…

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myself. I resume Marsha, please.

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I guess one quick thing about who is, quote, responsible for

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the sex of the baby, so what…

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This one is saying it's up to the woman, but we know it's really…

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the, you know, the sperm…

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That determines, like, X, Y, or, you know.

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Right. Chromosomes were not something that our ancients knew anything about.

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Yeah, so in that sense, this is kind of…

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maybe blaming the woman, in a way, or…

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We're crediting!

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so, you know, if we don't have a boy child, that's why.

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Yeah, thank you.

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Marcia, what are you thinking?

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And then Joan.

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Well, the way I looked at this, I tried to take a scholarly approach.

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Based on what I learned in biology, developmental bio class, which of course is not available at the time that.

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Mm-hmm.

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All this was written, but I just said, well, Whitefire, you know, if you look close enough, you know, you'll find anything in the spaces. Um… But I thought… Just that.

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If you look at it like a scholar, and you don't judge it, you know, it's just, well, that's what they thought.

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And you don't say, well, that's good or that's bad.

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And then you extrapolate from there. you end up in a different place than if you say that's a good thought or that's a bad thought.

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Mm-hmm.

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And. Where I ended up was, well, that's a good thought.

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And I just, like I said, I just used what I learned in developmental bio class back in the late, uh, or the early 2000s. And the AI.

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came up, because I was looking for particular information, and that I had already learned, and then it popped up in AI, and I've read it in books about stem cells, and… There it is, and I just let it, you know, I didn't argue with it. I just let it be whatever it was without, uh, trying to manipulate it.

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So, Joan, I want to hear from you, and then I want to move us… we have, sort of, 3 sections of material, and I want to make sure we get at least a little bit into all three of them, because I…

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I think there's going to be a trajectory that…

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that will be useful to us. What are you thinking about?

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Yep, you're muted.

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Mm-hmm. I'm thinking simply that we need we need to realize while respecting that this was all written so long ago with so little knowledge, and that people have a need for parameters and rules. So you can say.

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Well, good for them. They made rules, parameters, it made them comfortable, it gave them a way to live. The issue.

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for me is that how many years is it till we realize that we need to.

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we that we need to take this in the spirit in which it was written and move to the present.

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Thank you. Uh, James, and then we're gonna move on to our next subject.

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So, again, all this is assuming literal. interpretation of everything that we're reading here.

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When you start to look at this from a… a more symbolic perspective.

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The production of a female life. is much more complex than the production of a male life.

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And we know that biologically, it really isn't. science, right?

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But from a spiritual perspective. a female child is born with the ability to produce more life.

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Yep. Right.

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That is spiritually more complex. Um, when a child is born.

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Clearly, the nefesh is in play. But there's going to be more time for… The other aspects of the soul to come into play.

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What the woman goes through in creating. a life that can create more life.

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is going to have more of a draw on her soul than, say, you know, creating something that doesn't, again, create more life.

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And again, we're not talking biology, but spiritually, obviously.

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Right, but spiritually, yeah.

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Yeah, so that's when you start to run into all these different things that we're talking about, the amount of time that it's gonna take.

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for her to be spiritually, ritually pure again, the amount of this and that, you know, and it's not so much a punitive thing.

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As, again, from the symbolic perspective, it's more of a matter of focusing all this around the mother.

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Giving her the time that she needs to be able to recover from this. And again, if it's more complex to produce a female child, then obviously she needs more time to recover, especially spiritually.

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And it factors into this additional piece, you know.

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The old joke of who initiates is who determines whether it's a boy or girl. Kind of comes from this.

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it all comes back to that complexity in the creation of life.

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Whether it's what, you know, the rabbi says here or otherwise, it's all about the complexity of life that can create life.

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Right. Beautiful.

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Alright, when we're done with this little arrow, let's…

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So I, um…

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Just want to give a nod and some applause to Cheryl's beautiful little piece of Midrush here. Actually, Cheryl, will you read this excerpt to us quickly, and then we're going to move into the…

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Question of timing.

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Thank you. It's on the last part of the last Parsha though, not this Parsha.

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Fair enough.

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Do not eat of the creeping things with this or that many legs.

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Do not take them into you, lest you become tameh.

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Be aware and constantly mindful of those around us.

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Be aware of anyone who has lost their way.

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We must not be swayed by word or deed of those creeping in the dark through the world, regardless of how much influence they may wield.

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Let nothing and no one move you into a state of tomorrow.

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Keep yourself always as to whore with a heart and soul always focused on the purity of Yudhiv.

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Make your aim to live a righteous life with every breath and with every mouthful.

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Beautiful. So, one of the things that y'all identified immediately is

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What is up with the 33 days and the 66 days, right?

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And this is a question that, of course, our tradition also asked. We've got a little piece of Stein Saltz here.

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Pointing out that the days

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that follow the birth of a female are twice as long.

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And here comes, uh, Susan.

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to say exactly the same thing.

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you know, having experienced the charged, altered state of electrified consciousness filled with wonder, delight, and awe,

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Why is the time for purification and bonding twice as long for one than for the other? They're obviously both intense.

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So, that question continues to ring out.

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The Women's Torah commentary notes that

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a lot of voices will suggest that

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A girl's mother is Tame Longer.

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Because women are considered inferior.

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That said, Torah doesn't actually say that.

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So, Tora just says it's this and it's that.

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Um, we, with our biases, often read into it, oh, one of these is good and one of them is bad, but Torah's just saying,

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They're different.

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Uh, Marcia, will you read us Your Little Midrush here?

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Which is also going to get to what James was just saying.

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When a woman is pregnant with a female fetus, she is carrying 3 generations simultaneously, herself.

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On one daughter, and the immature egg cells already forming within her daughter's ovaries.

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A female fetus develops all the eggs she will ever carry while still in her mother's womb.

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The woman was just given birth to a girl, is charged up because she… is a link to Eternity.

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Yeah, thank you for highlighting that line, Rabbi David, that's a gorgeous line.

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And Jonathan Sachs.

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former Chief Rabbi of Great Britain more or less says,

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the same things, the child… childbirth exempts the new mother from attendance at the temple.

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Because her bedside replicates the experience of the temple. It is itself a holy place.

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Iris, will you give… oh, Rabbi David, and then I would like to hear Alex's chat.

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Yeah, so… so…

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I do not have it anymore.

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It is known.

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Not every… not every woman has.

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That is also known.

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And so…

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And some men do, in today's world, although that was not true in the time of Torah.

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Jonathan Sachs.

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saying something profound.

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And it's something that we need.

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sometimes sane passing.

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But I think…

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Jonathan says.

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Forcing us now to make explicit stuff that we

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We've said before.

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The temple is a…

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space.

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synagogue. A Zoom screen, because today is…

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most modern variants.

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a, you know.

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Any space.

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spiritualize.

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It goes right back to the…

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While soon.

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in a sanctuary, make me up all weekend.

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place.

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Excuse me

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I will check in the midst of you, not yet.

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of Johnson Sachs is saying.

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And the time.

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That's so beautiful.

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You can dwell in time.

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So we can understand these 33

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as an extended shot.

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principle that we are exempt.

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I'm certain needs moments, because we are the

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engaged in the mitzvah of…

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Whether it's Shabbat.

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Odds are pretty good that no one was born.

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child was not doing something else while she's burying that child.

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while she's recovering from that.

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Lifelessness in the mind.

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I remember from Jewish life.

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So we have this lie ahead.

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limited time.

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He's not just making a legal point here.

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an existential spiritual one.

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And we can extend that somewhat out of the

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There's nothing wrong with it, right?

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easy for me to say I remember the number.

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We explained the connection between… Um, Rachmanus.

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So… Mm-hmm, so…

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Why don't you do it?

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And Moom? Because you'll do it better.

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M is Hebrew for womb.

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is the word for compassion.

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Yeah.

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So when we describe God as harachaman, the compassionate one, we are also in some ways saying the in-woomed One.

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God is… Mm-hmm.

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And so do the Muslims. In the name of Allah.

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Iraqi.

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It's cause it is.

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The compassionate, the merciful, the compassionate, the womb.

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of the world.

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I love the gender bendiness of that. Of course.

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God, which is a masculine word, connects with a womb.

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Joan, I see your hand, and then I would love to hear Iris's teaching here.

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I. I only know my own experience and what I hear here.

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is that there must be a respect for the.

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extraordinary experience that it is to give birth. for a woman, something she never could anticipate and something that she needs to have time to.

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taken, so to speak. Now, there's to me no doubt about that. What I question is that.

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Why isn't it just said? Let the mother, let the new mother.

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And this recognizes, let the new mother who needs spiritual healing, who needs time for her physical healing.

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decide when she is ready, she will go again.

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Holovai. I love that.

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Where we should be so lucky is to live in a society that actually functions that way.

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Yes, and give the woman her due after all.

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no man really it's like when they give maternity leave.

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And they say that this is the amount of time that if you can be at home with your baby.

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Well, I know there are practical matters, but in this case, again, we go back to men doing their best, but really not being in the position. And there is such grace in the woman who is.

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At home, away from people, because she's not ready yet to be social.

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She's not ready to have everybody in the family descend.

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Mm-hmm. Again, we should be so lucky.

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Um, she's ready for what she needs.

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Which means so lucky.

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Alright, I…

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Like, yeah, I wanna just…

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plans in question that we're not going to answer for you.

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But, I want to restate Jane's questions.

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robust, and maybe after

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Mm-hmm.

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we can unpack.

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Mm-hmm.

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in general, which is this.

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I think we should unpack it, but let's move on.

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Torah doesn't… Torah's… Torah doesn't tell us why this.

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It certainly doesn't tell us the difference between males.

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Wait, say, say that again. Why doesn't Torah tell…

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And, you know, is it a penalty? Is it a comfort

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What is that tourism doesn't tell us? Why not?

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Is Torah telling us something by mountain.

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is to where we're trying to achieve something precisely by that.

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I'm wondering…

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Rabbi David, whether we're going to need to skip the sin offering part.

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Um…

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All right, um, Iris, will you read us your text, and then we're gonna keep moving forward.

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Yeah.

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We'll see how far we can get.

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The 30… the 33 days for a son and 66 days for a daughter,

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are not because a daughter is more to my. Rather, the additional 33 days

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Respect the new baby's womb.

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Her potential to give birth later in life is a gift.

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The time for mother and baby is nurturing, loving, rahamim.

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In Judaism, we set apart what is holy.

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This setting apart is honoring the holiness

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This… this is sacred time, honoring mother and baby girl.

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Their potential receives God's grace and offers grace.

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Blessings are seeded, germinate, bud, and blossom.

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The holiness brings forth Tov, and Tov brings forth holiness.

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As lush leaves opening on the eternal branches of the Tree of Life.

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Thank you for that.

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Thank you for giving me thought.

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like, you know, the… I love… I love the… the linking back to the idea of seeds.

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And what germinates and what grows, which is really at the heart of this whole

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Parsha.

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Thank you.

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One of the things that got brought up early on was, um,

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the fact that the Hebrew says that one brings a chattat offering, a sin offering, after giving…

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birth. Um, and I'm just… Ibn Ezra's…

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commentary on this, I think, is fantastic.

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The reason a woman who gives birth brings a lamb for an Ola offering is that she may have had some unseemly thought.

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Because of her pain when giving birth.

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Let's see you later.

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She brings a chattat offering because she might have uttered some unseemly thing with her lips.

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Speaking…

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Speaking as a woman who has given birth, I am here to tell you I said plenty of unseemly things.

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during labor.

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And I love that our sages all understood that that is the case, right? That, yes, it is very likely that she's gonna say something she might need to apologize for later.

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Um, and that's also where Frankl goes, right? Why is it a sin offering? What has she done wrong?

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Someone want to read to us, uh, Leah the Namor,

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Hold of the preacher Miriam the prophet.

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Somebody unmute and read to us.

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Leah the namer answers,

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Sin is a mistranslation of the Hebrew hatat.

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It's more accurately translated as purification.

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hold the preacher elaborates.

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The purpose of this offering is not to atone for any wrongdoing, but rather to quote-unquote decontaminate the woman

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From the ritual impurity that threatens to endanger others.

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Only after she brings these to the priest will she be declared quote-unquote pure enough to re-enter the community.

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Maryam the prophet adds,

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The Torah calls the blood that flows during this time a source or fountain ,

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A classical feminine image for the many fluids,

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Milk, menstrual and birth blood, tears of joy and sympathy.

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The flow from women's bodies and sustain others.

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And so there's something here about flow.

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And sacred flow.

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Just one of the ways we understand blessing from God.

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And a challenge!

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And we need to be quick.

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That the five books of…

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As soon as this translation of the Hebrew ketat.

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accurately described as purification.

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That talk really does say sit, and that's what the word is.

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things set, and it's spelled that way, it is that way.

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H. Hmm?

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really is that. So…

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There's nothing sinful here. I mean, why does she have to bring a sin offering? I mean, she doesn't want to answer that question.

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Because it would imply that you did something wrong.

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There's nothing wrong here.

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Randall has to be translated.

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Wrong!

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Because this whole piece is about that shift from

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in a state of 2R means time A.

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in the state of Tahara.

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So we're in the purification process here.

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is called a tat for me.

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We can't undo that.

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Yep. The Talmud offers another understanding for why that might be.

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I love that this, this…

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This… this is so good. Who wants to read this one? This one's fun.

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It's so good, it's really bad.

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Maybe someone who hasn't had a chance to read.

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I'll read, I'll read. Red Shimon van Yochai students last

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Why does Taurus say a woman after childbirth brings a core bond?

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He said to them at the time she crouches to give birth, she impulsively takes an oath

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That she will not engage in intercourse with her husband again.

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Thus,

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I'm never letting you touch me again, you bastard!

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Thus, Torah says she must bring a core bond.

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to atone in advance.

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We're violating that oath.

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Rabbi Yosef objects.

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But isn't she an intentional violator of her faith?

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And dissolving an old halachically?

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turns on regret.

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One brings this core bond for violating an oath

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Only if the trans…

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Aggression is unwitting.

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So, just the…

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law of reasoning is that this remedy

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this sin can only be an unlimited

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sin. It's like, oh, I didn't mean to sleep.

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I'm just gonna let that float out there.

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And this can't be.

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It's so very, very…

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very hard.

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Women didn't sin by having a boy.

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yet. Maybe…

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She said something.

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She's gonna say I'm never sleeping.

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on my oath, because she's not…

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is giving birth, saying that about their husband,

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their fingers crossed like this. I'm just kidding.

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taking this seriously.

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It gets even better worse. Keep going.

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I know.

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Yeah, no, never… now it gets even better.

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Hmm.

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Why does Torah say that one who births a male is Tamei for 7 days, but one who births a female is Teme for 14?

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She moaned Ben Yochai answered,

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When a woman gives birth to a male over which everyone is happy,

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She regrets her oath to forswear her husband.

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Seven days later. After giving birth to a female, over which everyone is unhappy,

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She regrets her oath 14 days later.

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Yes, it actually says that. When she gives birth to a boy and everybody's celebrating,

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It only takes her a week to want to sleep with her husband again.

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Keep going!

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For when she gives birth to a girl and everybody's bummed about it, it might take her 2 weeks to decide.

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she's ready.

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My daughter is my daughter,

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Something like that.

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vase smear. Alright, so look, the…

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We're just gonna let this one sit.

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It makes me laugh every time I learn it.

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But the point being, the tradition is really struggling here.

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And it's… it's not even trying to hide its struggle.

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It's not trying to justify this, rather, it's not trying to

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couch the struggle. It's just…

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Here's the best we can do.

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John's question again.

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And we also have a little piece of Talmud saying, you know what, a woman who gives birth has not sinned. She's bringing

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Corbine so she can eat holy food again, that's it. She doesn't sin, she doesn't need to atone.

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So, traditions all…

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So all your rabbis, this is equal

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in Talmud, right? Babylonian Talmud preto.

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warning in town would need that.

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Yep.

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This is Talmud saying to Talmud,

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Shut. Up.

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Aviva Richmond is contemporary.

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And I'm just going to give us this quickly so we can move to our last section of learning. A chattat is usually brought for an unintentional sin. An early rabbinic sages struggled to pinpoint

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What sin? A woman would have committed in birth to warrant such a sacrifice?

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But not all interpreters understand this particular sacrifice as a response to sin.

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According to Rambun, the chattat brought after birth has nothing to do with sin, it is for healing.

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The process of birth is a physical trauma.

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The Corvon acknowledges that trauma.

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It is a coffer nefesh, a redemption for one's life offered to God. In Ramban's words, it expresses the desire to be healed by God,

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Who heals all flesh and acts wondrously.

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Maybe this isn't about sin at all, it is about asking

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for healing.

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Uh, just to underscore…

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the intuition is.

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traditional sense that when someone…

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Survived.

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accidents.

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got out of prison.

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or survived a harrowing journey.

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comes to the synagogue.

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In ancient days, one would bring a thing.

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Now, one offers a special

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benching global.

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And…

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They essentially praise God.

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bestowed on them.

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from the congregation and folds.

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And says, Amen. May the…

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As long as you continue to grow more witness on you.

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Because how many words

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dying in childbirth.

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More than the now, and some of us still do now.

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Right, right.

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People risk their lives to…

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And especially in days when

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obstetrician, right?

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And so you brought life for life.

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Ellen Ruth, I see your hand, and then we're gonna try to get through our last section of texts before our time is up.

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Yeah, there's something that I don't understand.

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If women are the ones who give birth to life,

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Why, culturally, are they devalued? I… I just…

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don't understand that.

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Boy, that is a… that is a vast human question that…

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To which I don't have a good answer.

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Other than the patriarchy.

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About patriarchy.

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about patriarchy.

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If you were to ask the classical patriarchy,

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consider myself, and maybe some of the

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consider mediums.

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I'm going to try to answer the call.

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The classical patriarchy does not devalue one.

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the classical patriarchy.

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Elevates women.

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by exempting them.

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from certain obligations, spiritually.

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Because they don't need them because they were home.

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higher than the rest of this game.

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their role in family.

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their appearance, the quality in the marriage.

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It still is, in some contexts.

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the rest of society began.

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in the patriarchy have done.

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is turning the exemption into a

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In some context, you can't.

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become clergy in Jerusalem.

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And in some context, it can't.

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I had women come to me and say, can I touch this?

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guts shriveled.

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And I… I don't love answering.

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questions on behalf of all Jews everywhere.

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But I think I can comfortably say

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the valuation of the women.

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is not in total.

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It's…

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It's also not just a Jewish problem. This is a human social problem across…

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all of our traditions.

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And it has shaped tones.

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It has shaped Midwash, it has shaped social.

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policy. But if you go

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It's actually not fair.

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And that's part of our project now.

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I'm gonna suggest that we skip Rahel Adler. There are two really great quotes here from two things she wrote 20 years apart.

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And you'll see that she disagrees with herself over the course of a few decades.

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And, uh, dive into this on your own time, because it's really good stuff. We just don't have…

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you want to do this one?

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Um, sure. Would someone like to read our second quote from Rachel Adler?

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wait while others are going to disagree with me.

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In the mind of God, according to a Midrash,

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is a Torah of black fire written on white fire.

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In the hands of Jews is a Torah written in Gaul on the skins of dead animals.

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And the miracle is that the fire of God's Torah flickers through our scroll.

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I continue to learn the purity texts,

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Hoping for some yet unglimpsed spark,

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But that is not enough. I must learn what purity can mean in my own world,

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And in the most human world, I can envision.

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for hours is a Torah of and for human beings,

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It may be perfected only in the way that we perfect ourselves.

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We do not become more godlike by becoming less human,

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But by becoming more deeply, more broadly, more comprehensively,

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human. Purity and impurity do not constitute a cycle through which all members of society

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pass, as I argued in my 1972 essay.

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Instead, impurity and purity define a class system,

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in which the most impure people

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are women.

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To be clear, I don't think she's saying here that Torah necessarily holds

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with that belief.

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But that, culturally, that is where that belief has gone.

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Which is why some people, if they hear about

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they will hear about it in terms of…

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almost gender violence.

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the respect of subjugating.

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But if you ask,

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Someone who practices the…

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in a feminine context.

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my experience of mikvah has been incredibly empowering and uplifting.

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But it probably can be oppressive for some. It's just, it's all about how it… how the ritual is applied and how it's experienced.

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Right. And…

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I think…

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a special responsibility.

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to recognize not just…

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Tradition and, um…

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But also the impact.

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I see Cheryl's hand.

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It strikes me that. both these conditions of purity, impurity, or however we want to say it.

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are temporary. And it's within our power to purify, to change, to reevaluate.

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how we want to live our lives so that we have a say.

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This, obviously, in the biological piece where it's saying.

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birth, etc. Creates this condition for you, and you have to come out of it for the impurity piece for women. However.

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It's temporary. And in most cases we have control over whether we will be in either state.

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Thank you.

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Liberty.

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So there's agency.

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Rabbi Debra, will you scroll us to the next page? We're going to move very quickly through two last pieces of text.

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Yep.

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Um, and then I… I, um…

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I know we have a couple of mourners among us.

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Curtis Sullivan, which is drawing.

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Welcome, Roberta. We know that you and Paulette are here to remember your mom, and we will get there very shortly.

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Thank you. Okay.

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So, um, Adine Evan is Israel has this beautiful comparison that Tuma is like a magnetic field.

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Which happens when there's a drastic change.

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Like an electric current suddenly stops.

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It happens at the point of change.

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Truma is produced when the current of life within an entity is stopped.

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Whether in its entirety, or only in one respect.

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Take, for example, the tumah of a corpse.

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This tum ah occurs not because the corpse is not alive, nor because it used to be alive,

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But because it used to be alive and then it stopped.

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It's about the change in state.

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Regarding Tuma in childbirth, the Kutzker Rebbe said,

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Three keys remain in God's hand, and were not entrusted to any emissaries.

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The key of rain? The key of childbirth, and the key of revival of the dead.

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rain, because we're a desert culture and you need it to survive, and you don't know if you're gonna get it or not.

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Childbirth, because it is dangerous as hell.

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And reviving the debt which is beyond all of our understanding.

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Since the key of childbirth is in God's hands, then apparently God is present during the birth.

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After which God's Spirit departs,

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This is the source of the tension that generates tumah.

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Not because the birth itself is Tameh.

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But because birth involves a gulf between a high of God's presence and a low.

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of God disappearing.

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It's the gulf between life and death.

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Alright, you go to the cemetery.

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There's too much there. Not because you've touched the dead body.

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because you've been in that luminal space.

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exchangers of all genders.

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same principle.

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ourselves, in a sense.

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counter.

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something transformative.

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That shift in status.

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and state that shift in awareness that that is the source of trauma. It's not coonie's.

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our ancestors truly as Christians.

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It's just, we're here now.

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We need to do something to move from here to here.

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Yes. Yes.

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Rabbi David, is this like revelation concealment and that time in between that process?

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Yes. Yes. We can't have the same experience on the meditation cushion.

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As you have when your legs are up and stiff.

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syrups, and you're pushing out a bowling ball.

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They're both sacred.

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very truthful and sacred.

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unfortunate that we've been treating it as

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clean and unclean as the English so often

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As if it were morally so, it's not.

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leads to misunderstanding and resentment.

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But if we understand it as spiritually whole versus spiritually vulnerable,

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That's a completely different matter.

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Our tradition is labeled Tahor as the desirable state, and Tame as undesirable.

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But the things that make us tame are connected with intimacy.

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Sex, birth, assisting others, loss.

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Intimacy brings the possibility of being spiritually vulnerable.

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This is not a negative state. It is actually a goal.

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For many people to open our hearts, which can lead to intimate and spiritual experiences.

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But intimate encounters leave us in a vulnerable state, and we can't stay there.

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So we move toward a state of Tahor.

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As a preparation for more intimacy, but…

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That's a state with boundaries, and we don't want to stay there either.

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We are always oscillating between the two.

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So I'm gonna start from the very beginning.

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Because God is in the Tahara.

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Absolutely.

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God is also in the tumah.

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Yeah…

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Meredith, I see your hand.

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Uh, that was a beautiful Rabbi Rachel, but I don't understand…

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What is spiritually whole?

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How do we know when we're spiritually whole

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I mean, we all know what vulnerability feels like.

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Um, but spiritually whole, I don't know.

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What is that? What is that?

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Mmm, that is a great question.

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That's not using the English for a second.

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This is so important. Rabbi Rachel, can I…

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Yeah, please, please, please. Yeah.

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stop the screen share, and can we just be on screen together? This is… this is tremendous.

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Yes.

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As often happens, the question that seems over here is actually quite

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It shouldn't…

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Shalom.

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Spiritual.

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Experience.

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of peace.

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And for those of us who are…

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a sense of intervene.

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It's important to us that unites everything.

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And we've all experienced

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It's in our lives.

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or not. This is one of the ways that Junior

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Most of us, most of the time, we're on a continuum.

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Right? You know, we talk about

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states as if it's heads or tails?

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It's not so…

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And there were times, whether it's in…

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loss of other kinds, or…

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You have reached too far.

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Which is one reason that the experience of loss and death.

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are inherently

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How can we be in that sense of…

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This, when we have lost.

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And we are feeling the imminence of that loss.

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It isn't just because the rules say so.

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But because the walls are reflecting an inheritance of human experience,

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That we are spiritualizing.

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And it's never a permanent state shift one way or the other.

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Right?

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In my own grief journey over the course of years,

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There are losses that were once, like,

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Tsunamis of overwhelmingness that are now…

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More like a gentle pool I can…

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Rest in.

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But there was no getting from point A to point B except…

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With time,

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And it's still sometimes toggles back and forth, because that's part of being human.

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Rabbi Rachel, I know that Paulette

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is, uh, and, uh, Larry is coming on.

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Yep, hello.

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Oh, awesome! Hooray! We've got…

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Hello, Larry.

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siblings, siblings?

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you know, to say Kaddish.

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Were there ever such devoted siblings?

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Right, to say cottage Rabbi Rachel, you're leading. Um, do you want to…

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cottage on your end.

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Yep.

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Yeah, sure, let me think on that, and while I'm pulling up that slide, would y'all like to…

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Would any of y'all like to tell us a word about your mom, whom you're remembered with?

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Marsh is raising her hand. Marsh is in on this?

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Oh, so sorry.

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Yes, it is. It's about… Brokenness.

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Which is a part of healing, which is what we're addressing. What makes us whole.

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Often is hidden. The search itself is part of becoming whole.

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Yes.

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May the Holy One make us whole. As the ofikamin is made whole.

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Again, at the end of our meal.

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I am returning back in the source, uh, in the chat box, uh, today's source sheet.

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It has all…

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are the complete versions of the Midrashim.

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Uh, that we just excerpted. I hope you will look at them.

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They are really all just…

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Wonderful. And there'll be other opportunities that will…

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in over the weeks ahead.

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Yes.

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to do some, uh, midrashing of your own.

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With that, I want to offer it back to Rabbi Rachel.

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And, uh, speaking of…

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Shifting spiritual states.

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Hm.

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Oh, well, hang on, having a small difficulty with my screen share, please.

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Hold?

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Momentito…

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hang on, yeah, sorry, I'm, uh…

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It didn't work on our end.

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Technological difficulty, let's try that one more time.

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We're working on that, Ricardo.

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Burglary, Paulette?

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Tell us about Mama.

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I would. We're saying cottage for our mother, Jacqueline.

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I said, 20 years, Paulette.

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who died 20 years ago. And she would 20 years.

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I loved Rabbi Rachel, how you described it as a tsunami, because that's exactly what it felt like.

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Mm, mhm.

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I never connected that word with grieving. and she died. I mean, she had had her health problems.

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Of course, but her death came quickly, and… It was the first big one that I ever experienced. It was pretty horrible. But anyway, I brought a picture. Well, I'm in my house, but here's a picture of me and my mother from probably.

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30 years ago, I'm guessing. And, um, the only thing I wanted to say to her, because I don't want to take all the time from my brother and sister, is that my mother was way ahead of her time. She was…

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of feminist before there was the word feminist, and.

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she went to the University of Massachusetts, where she met my father, and.

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Um, but what she really… where she really wanted to go was Smith College.

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She was quite brilliant, which my brother takes after her, you'll see. But, um… she… her father… in that day and age, he wouldn't let her go to Smith.

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Um, so she always felt burdened being a woman, and… When she was old, I think just a few years before she died, she made her bat mitzvah because she wasn't allowed to in her Orthodox show growing up in Springfield, Mass.

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Thank you.

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And so Roberta, Larry.

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Larry or Roberta, either of you want to say anything about your mom?

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Yeah, hi.

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I'm maybe, can you hear me? Oh, okay, I was on the wrong thing there, but I could hear everybody. Um, yeah, I think my mother was 73 when she had her bat mitzvah, and that was so beautiful and so important to her.

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Yeah…

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Well, I think about her all the time and I can't believe it's been that long. And I kind of keep her alive in my heart, partly with things that she had that are in my house. I see them every day, I use them every day for the Seder. I use her Seder plate that she made at some.

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class and and my daughter Emmy just had a baby nine days ago.

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And, uh, yesterday we had his naming, and they named him after my sister Sherry.

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Which was very sweet. Her name was Sepora, and his name is Sepor.

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Oh, that's beautiful.

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Thank you.

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So, I know my mother would be felling.

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Of course.

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You're welcome. Thank you for this nice service.

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Larry, you want to say a word, and we'll move into Mourners Cottage together.

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You also don't have to, it's up to you.

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He might not have it on the right, well, there he is.

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Yeah, I don't have much to add, but yeah, I can't believe it's been 20 years, but I miss her very much and think about her all the time. And my parents and Sherry are still alive and.

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That's a gift.

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my head and my heart, and I also make a number of her recipes, my mother's recipes that still carry on my kids like them and I do too.

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Of course.

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And thank you for letting me join.

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So, if you're… for those who are observing a yard site, or if you're morning a more recent death, there are other names people want to put in the chat box for remembrance.

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We have the words of Mourners Kaddish in front of us, and for those of us who are not in mourning,

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We have the sacred opportunity of saying Amen.

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And the Yaheshme Rabba, in response,

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As we hold our mourners in our hearts.

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You guys ready?

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If you want to tell us about who you're saying college for?

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Yes. Yaskadal.

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Mm-hmm. Yes, Kadash.

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I mean…

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Shemiraba.

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Adi Parakhirude. "I informed.

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It's not for the VIN will be coming. Yeah, please.

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Amen, yay, she may,

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Amen. Yehe Rabov roughly love the nail, man.

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is brought to this car.

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Rico!

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We had, um…

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VSLL. Sharata.

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Shield.

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Briefly.

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They love about.

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I mean…

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Yay. who you have stage of them.

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Elaine. He moved on.

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Yeah, it's the, um… Yeah, I'll probably just throw it out.

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I mean…

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I'll call Yisrael.

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Osess Shalom. Yeah.

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Okay.

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May the source of peace bring peace to all who mourn and comfort to all who are bereaved, including

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The three of y'all.

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And thank you all for being here and learning together today. This is…

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Thank you.

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a real gift, as always.

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We're here every Saturday, uh…

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Thank you, Rachel. And David.

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Thanks, everybody.

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No partials like this partial, but…

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Portia is, um…

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is very sweet. Next week's tour report

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She is the middle of the middle of the middle.

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It's our remote condition.

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including the homeless code that…

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Okay, poor afternoon.

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I wrote…

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Um, we've got some yummy stuff already in store.

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Rabbi Rachel, you will be not here.

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I will be teaching Christian clergy in Seattle, but y'all will be in excellent hands with Rabbi David.

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Cool. Hmm.

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And the following week, Rabbi David will be not here.

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Oh.

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It will be the bat mitzvah of Nancy Heller, so Rabbi Rachel and I are going to take turns, but Soul Spa will

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And we will…

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forward to seeing you as many weeks

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as you wish to be here, and will be here.

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We're gonna stop the… we're gonna stop the recording, and perhaps we'll take on Joan's question.

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Why Torah didn't tell us why for any of this.

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A sweet, transformative…

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beautiful Shabbat hall.

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Soul-shifting Shabbat.

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And we'll see you again.

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Shabbat Shalom.

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Shabbat Shalom.

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That'sShabbat Shal